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	<title>Comments on: The future looks grim</title>
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	<description>... and into yours</description>
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		<title>By: keithcurtis</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your analysis is pretty spot on. I&#039;ve gone through several crises of self-image over this, but my wife has been a rock of stability, assuring me that moving on is the right decision.
The Board met and approved an R.E. plan that I do not feel will result in a quality program. Regretfully, I am going to decline involvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your analysis is pretty spot on. I&#8217;ve gone through several crises of self-image over this, but my wife has been a rock of stability, assuring me that moving on is the right decision.<br />
The Board met and approved an R.E. plan that I do not feel will result in a quality program. Regretfully, I am going to decline involvement.</p>
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		<title>By: Noble Bear</title>
		<link>http://savageearth.net/wordpress/archives/129/comment-page-1#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Noble Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may not pertain to your situation, if so, I apologize in advance. 

The problem sounds like it isn&#039;t a lack of vision but a cultural one as well. I grew up evangelical, and in the church I was with I didn&#039;t find folks who were interested in learning and growing in their faith but rather, treating Sunday morning congregation as a sort of social club with religious overtones; people who&#039;s notion of a good time is listening to dreary, lifless tones of marinatha, who&#039;s idea of edification is milquetoast in some cases trussed up as a self help seminar. I don&#039;t mean to be unkind, as people cant help being people, but my relationship was one I felt I had to terminate from frustration. 

I find your loyalty genuinely admirable, no relationship can grow if one isn&#039;t willing to work on it. That said, I keep thinking of your girl; right now it sounds as though you&#039;re in a congregation that has reached equilibrium and as such is well within its comfort zone, and if the average age is old enough, then I suspect that they are all either to hardened and bullish to accept anything that smells of change or too soft and boorish to care. If you have another church you can go to get fed, where your daughter can learn, grow, explore, ask questions to informed elders and become strong in her faith, then that would be of greater benefit than being somewhere that is well intentioned but may be too given over to their ways.

I suspect some of this will be controlled for as you are raising her and can equip her outside of or regardless of what that particular church can provide, that you teach the stuff is evidence of this. Still, it cant hurt to have support from your church community as well.

Please take this for its worth, but fiances aside, it may be time to move on. 

On a lighter note, if you do decide to go the extra 45mins, you can use that time for meditation, fellowship with your family, or even listen to a podcast. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may not pertain to your situation, if so, I apologize in advance. </p>
<p>The problem sounds like it isn&#8217;t a lack of vision but a cultural one as well. I grew up evangelical, and in the church I was with I didn&#8217;t find folks who were interested in learning and growing in their faith but rather, treating Sunday morning congregation as a sort of social club with religious overtones; people who&#8217;s notion of a good time is listening to dreary, lifless tones of marinatha, who&#8217;s idea of edification is milquetoast in some cases trussed up as a self help seminar. I don&#8217;t mean to be unkind, as people cant help being people, but my relationship was one I felt I had to terminate from frustration. </p>
<p>I find your loyalty genuinely admirable, no relationship can grow if one isn&#8217;t willing to work on it. That said, I keep thinking of your girl; right now it sounds as though you&#8217;re in a congregation that has reached equilibrium and as such is well within its comfort zone, and if the average age is old enough, then I suspect that they are all either to hardened and bullish to accept anything that smells of change or too soft and boorish to care. If you have another church you can go to get fed, where your daughter can learn, grow, explore, ask questions to informed elders and become strong in her faith, then that would be of greater benefit than being somewhere that is well intentioned but may be too given over to their ways.</p>
<p>I suspect some of this will be controlled for as you are raising her and can equip her outside of or regardless of what that particular church can provide, that you teach the stuff is evidence of this. Still, it cant hurt to have support from your church community as well.</p>
<p>Please take this for its worth, but fiances aside, it may be time to move on. </p>
<p>On a lighter note, if you do decide to go the extra 45mins, you can use that time for meditation, fellowship with your family, or even listen to a podcast. <img src='http://savageearth.net/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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